Wednesday 26 March 2014

What is the point of a priest if he doesn't believe the Bible?

In my in-law's home county, there has come a big debate about the conservative nature of the priests in the Swedish Lutheran church there.

None of the priests wanted to marry a gay couple, so they had to call in someone from the big city to do the job.

They don't have any female priests in the area either, what a scandal!

They also are not so receptive to the homosexual christian club that is pushed on them...

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.2321536-svenska-kyrkan-maste-ta-avstand-fran-hatbrotten-i-kinna

My take on the whole issue:

Women should not be teachers in the church

and

Homosexuality is sinful

are two issues that are clear as day in the Bible.

So I am glad that the liberal Swedish Lutheran church dares to go against "cultural norms" for the sake of standing for what the Bible says.


more thoughts on creation, Systematic Theology, part 18

"When all the facts are rightly understood, there will be "No Final Conflict" between Scripture and natural science."

There is room for disagreement among Christians who believe in the total truthfulness of Scripture, for example, was it 7 literal days or longer?

In our understanding of the natural world and our understanding of Scripture, our knowledge is not perfect.

God, who speaks in Scripture, knows all facts, and he has not spoken in a way that would contradict any true fact in the universe.

However, three theories about Creation seem inconsistent with Scripture:
1. Secular theory (i.e. without God)
2. Theistic Evolution, (i.e. Evolution took place but God guided it). God speaks about creation orderly and intentionally, not in random mutation as evolution would suggest.
Furthermore, if what God made was "good" and "very good," then why would it have to go through so many mutations to it's final form?


Grudem points out that despite the evidence supporting creationism and the Bible, the ultimate reason people go up against it is because "It seems as though they will believe in anything, so long as it is not belief in the personal God of Scripture, she calls us to forsake our pride, humble ourselves before him, ask his forgiveness for failure to obey his moral standards, and submit ourselves to his moral commands for the rest of our lives. " 

3. If life was not created by God or responsible to him, then of what significance is human life?  Honest reflection on this notion should lead people to a profound sense of despair.

To add to this, without God there are no moral absolutes.  My moral ideas are “good for me but not to be imposed on you.”  Anything goes.


There is a group that suggests that from the first “day” when God created the heavens and the earth and the second “day.” This allows for all the millions of years old fossils to have a place in the Biblical account.  (This viewpoint also suggests the darkness on the first day as a result of God’s judgement/wrath, perhaps over when Satan rebelled).  This is an argument from silence, no scripture verse directly relates to this.

Next question: HOW OLD IS THE EARTH? This is an interesting yet less important question compared to the doctrinal questions of creation already covered. (God’s sovereignity in making the earth, doing it well, etc). 


Old Earthies, agree with modern science that the earth is 4.5 billion years old.  They draw from the verse, 2 Peter 3:8, “one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day (for God)”.

·        Day age view says, each day is an “age” of time.  They are in concordance with the Bible and the scientific conclusions about dating.
        
           The literary framework view says, this should not be taken literarily but rather as a framework or a literary device to understand creation.

Young Earthies say the earth is 10 to 20 thousand years old.  The verses that say “and there was evening, and there was morning, the first day.” Give strength to their argument that it was indeed a true 24 hour time period.
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           Mature creationism: That God made the earth with a deal of maturity already from the get go. For example, Adam and Eve were made as adults, not created and thrown on the earth as infants.  This suggestion questions how we can know that radiometric dating can be reliable in all times, considering that the substance of the earth could have changed the way the test results read out.
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           Flood geology: this would solve a lot of fossil/hard substances (diamonds, coal), due to the weight and power of the flood on the earth.

Both are valid options for Christians who believe the Bible today.
Simply adding up all the Biblical characters from Adam to Jesus is incomplete, as the Bible is clear that in it’s genealogies it includes the main/important characters primarily.

Did animals die before the fall? What about dinosaurs? (did they come along with all the other animals that Adam and Eve named, or where the animals living much before man was created).

Up next, the providence of God.

Systematic Theology, Chapter 39

*Just a reminder that this study of Wayne Grudem's book, Systematic Theology, is not by any means me teaching, but rather a simple sum...